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ludomastro (Visa profilen) 30 april 2014 14:40:17
I think it would be "Neniam estas la glavo murdisto; gxi estas ilo en la manoj de murdisto."
Is there a better way to render that thought?
Balbutanto (Visa profilen) 30 april 2014 16:19:43
ludomastro:I'm trying to translate a old saying, "The sword is never a killer; it is a tool in the killer's hands."Ne murdas la glavo mem, sed ĝia uzanto.
I think it would be "Neniam estas la glavo murdisto; gxi estas ilo en la manoj de murdisto."
Is there a better way to render that thought?
Hmm. A bit laconic, it seems.
Clarence666 (Visa profilen) 30 april 2014 16:30:07
Glavo sen gxia tenanto ne kapablas murdi, sed murdisto povas murdi ecx sen glavo.
nornen (Visa profilen) 30 april 2014 16:35:39
la murdisto ĉiam kaj ĉiam estas homo.
sudanglo (Visa profilen) 30 april 2014 19:09:07
morfran (Visa profilen) 30 april 2014 21:42:50
(Per si mem) glavo neniun mortigas: ĝi estas (nur) armilo de mortiganto.
(From Seneca’s Quemadmodum gladius neminem occidit: occidentis telum est.)
ludomastro (Visa profilen) 1 maj 2014 02:05:52
morfran:A more literal translation, though not a zippier one:You nailed the quote from Seneca. I like your translation; however, I'm confused by arm-il-o. I know that "ilo" is "tool" and the dictionary tells me that "armilo" is "weapon." However, I don't know what "armo" would be.
(Per si mem) glavo neniun mortigas: ĝi estas (nur) armilo de mortiganto.
(From Seneca’s Quemadmodum gladius neminem occidit: occidentis telum est.)
morfran (Visa profilen) 1 maj 2014 02:47:00
ludomastro:however, I'm confused by arm-il-o. I know that "ilo" is "tool" and the dictionary tells me that "armilo" is "weapon." However, I don't know what "armo" would be.Armilo is an instrument of armi, that is, “to arm” (“provizi per bataliloj, por ataki aŭ defendi”). Historically, an armilo would include armor as well as weapons, but since armor went by the wayside for a long time after the introduction of firearms, “arms”, “to arm”, etc., came to refer to just weapons.