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freeze10108 (프로필 보기) 2011년 2월 1일 오전 2:15:24
horsto:Mi ŝmiris (metis) Veĝemajton sur mian rostpanon.May I ask why "mian rostpanon" is in the accusative? It's not a direct object, and it's after a preposition, and I thought that one didn't put the accusative after prepositions.
Alciona (프로필 보기) 2011년 2월 1일 오전 4:07:36
freeze10108:It indicates direction. You're spreading the Vegemite onto the toast. Take these examples:horsto:Mi ŝmiris (metis) Veĝemajton sur mian rostpanon.May I ask why "mian rostpanon" is in the accusative? It's not a direct object, and it's after a preposition, and I thought that one didn't put the accusative after prepositions.
La kato saltis sur la tablo (The cat jumped on the table. This indicates that the cat was already on the table and jumped while on the table.)
La kato saltis sur la tablon (The cat jumped onto the table. In this instance the cat was somewhere else and has jumped onto the table.)
If the Vegemite was in a jar and you are applying it to toast, you'd use the accusative. If it was already on the toast and you were smearing it about, you wouldn't.
ceigered (프로필 보기) 2011년 2월 1일 오전 6:52:11
. Perhaps a cultural (or subcultural) difference, since I've never used nor heard much of "spread (peanut butter) onto", where as I'd assume other languages have "spread onto/spread on (+ dative?)" used... Nonetheless, I can't forsee any problems with spreading the stuff "sur rostpano", although there would clearly be a change in the emphasis and possibly misleading either way if used in the wrong circumstances.I'm guessing in German it's something along the lines of "auf den Toast" rather than "auf dem Toast"? (Laŭ tiu ĉi paĝo: auf.
sudanglo (프로필 보기) 2011년 2월 1일 오전 11:34:05
By the way 'Toasto' is less cumbersome and more specific than rostita pano (which might anyway be more than a pantranĉajo - pano is bread and 2 panoj is two loaves.)
