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de lingvokapablo, 2012-marto-09

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lingvokapablo (Montri la profilon) 2012-marto-09 04:19:26

What would be a good word for "wannabe" in Esperanto?

carmona (Montri la profilon) 2012-marto-09 04:56:26

lingvokapablo:What would be a good word for "wannabe" in Esperanto?
Maybe "estemulo", literaly? Inferentialy, no idea.

lingvokapablo (Montri la profilon) 2012-marto-09 05:52:54

carmona:Maybe "estemulo", literaly?
I could be reading it wrong, but I don't think "estemulo" would work. The way I read "estemulo" just doesn't have the negative connotation associated with it like the word "wannabe" has.

Vilius (Montri la profilon) 2012-marto-09 05:58:30

Maybe afektulo, ŝajnigulo. In severe cases of wannabeism even fals(em)ulo

Desmut (Montri la profilon) 2012-marto-09 06:16:36

Vilius:Maybe afektulo, ŝajnigulo. In severe cases of wannabeism even fal(em)sulo
Eble vi celis la vorton fals(em)ulo, cxu ne?

Evildela (Montri la profilon) 2012-marto-09 08:46:49

ĉiamnesukcesulaĉo... however that's a mouth full. Remember every language has it's own slang which can never be fully translated. Even in English this word makes no sense without prior knowledge.

Vilius (Montri la profilon) 2012-marto-09 11:52:08

Desmut:Eble vi celis la vorton fals(em)ulo, cxu ne?
Jes, dankon.

sudanglo (Montri la profilon) 2012-marto-09 12:34:24

What about volunto - tiu kiu volus?

komenstanto (Montri la profilon) 2012-marto-10 19:08:43

I like 'afektulo', though strictly speaking, I think everyone is a wannabe, or no one. The idea of 'social-learning' means copying other ideas in order to help evolve them. I watched a video that suggested chimpanzees lacked social-learning skills, thus they could not evolve like humans by copying each other and improving. They merely do the same thing over and over.

I had an argument with a blues musician from northern Germany who suggested that only the Eric Clapton generation were NOT wannabes. All subsequent rock is wannabe. To me though, Clapton was a wannabe blues artist as well, as he copied the African American musicians. I don't see where the line is drawn. To stop change and innovation goes against human evolution.

The concept of wannabe thus has no productive meaning for human progress.

lingvokapablo (Montri la profilon) 2012-marto-10 21:00:53

komenstanto:I like 'afektulo', though strictly speaking, I think everyone is a wannabe, or no one. The idea of 'social-learning' means copying other ideas in order to help evolve them. I watched a video that suggested chimpanzees lacked social-learning skills, thus they could not evolve like humans by copying each other and improving. They merely do the same thing over and over.

I had an argument with a blues musician from northern Germany who suggested that only the Eric Clapton generation were NOT wannabes. All subsequent rock is wannabe. To me though, Clapton was a wannabe blues artist as well, as he copied the African American musicians. I don't see where the line is drawn. To stop change and innovation goes against human evolution.

The concept of wannabe thus has no productive meaning for human progress.
For me, when I use the word "wannabe" it comes down to authenticity. A wannabe to me isn't someone who sincerely wants to learn, they want "it" (whatever it happens to be) because it's cool or socially accepted.

However, I do agree with you when you say we as humans copy each other to learn.

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