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lingvokapablo (显示个人资料) 2012年3月9日上午4:19:26
carmona (显示个人资料) 2012年3月9日上午4:56:26
lingvokapablo:What would be a good word for "wannabe" in Esperanto?Maybe "estemulo", literaly? Inferentialy, no idea.
lingvokapablo (显示个人资料) 2012年3月9日上午5:52:54
carmona:Maybe "estemulo", literaly?I could be reading it wrong, but I don't think "estemulo" would work. The way I read "estemulo" just doesn't have the negative connotation associated with it like the word "wannabe" has.
Vilius (显示个人资料) 2012年3月9日上午5:58:30
Desmut (显示个人资料) 2012年3月9日上午6:16:36
Vilius:Maybe afektulo, ŝajnigulo. In severe cases of wannabeism even fal(em)suloEble vi celis la vorton fals(em)ulo, cxu ne?
Evildela (显示个人资料) 2012年3月9日上午8:46:49
Vilius (显示个人资料) 2012年3月9日上午11:52:08
Desmut:Eble vi celis la vorton fals(em)ulo, cxu ne?Jes, dankon.
sudanglo (显示个人资料) 2012年3月9日下午12:34:24
komenstanto (显示个人资料) 2012年3月10日下午7:08:43
I had an argument with a blues musician from northern Germany who suggested that only the Eric Clapton generation were NOT wannabes. All subsequent rock is wannabe. To me though, Clapton was a wannabe blues artist as well, as he copied the African American musicians. I don't see where the line is drawn. To stop change and innovation goes against human evolution.
The concept of wannabe thus has no productive meaning for human progress.
lingvokapablo (显示个人资料) 2012年3月10日下午9:00:53
komenstanto:I like 'afektulo', though strictly speaking, I think everyone is a wannabe, or no one. The idea of 'social-learning' means copying other ideas in order to help evolve them. I watched a video that suggested chimpanzees lacked social-learning skills, thus they could not evolve like humans by copying each other and improving. They merely do the same thing over and over.For me, when I use the word "wannabe" it comes down to authenticity. A wannabe to me isn't someone who sincerely wants to learn, they want "it" (whatever it happens to be) because it's cool or socially accepted.
I had an argument with a blues musician from northern Germany who suggested that only the Eric Clapton generation were NOT wannabes. All subsequent rock is wannabe. To me though, Clapton was a wannabe blues artist as well, as he copied the African American musicians. I don't see where the line is drawn. To stop change and innovation goes against human evolution.
The concept of wannabe thus has no productive meaning for human progress.
However, I do agree with you when you say we as humans copy each other to learn.