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Wannabe

viết bởi lingvokapablo, Ngày 09 tháng 3 năm 2012

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lingvokapablo (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 04:19:26 Ngày 09 tháng 3 năm 2012

What would be a good word for "wannabe" in Esperanto?

carmona (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 04:56:26 Ngày 09 tháng 3 năm 2012

lingvokapablo:What would be a good word for "wannabe" in Esperanto?
Maybe "estemulo", literaly? Inferentialy, no idea.

lingvokapablo (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 05:52:54 Ngày 09 tháng 3 năm 2012

carmona:Maybe "estemulo", literaly?
I could be reading it wrong, but I don't think "estemulo" would work. The way I read "estemulo" just doesn't have the negative connotation associated with it like the word "wannabe" has.

Vilius (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 05:58:30 Ngày 09 tháng 3 năm 2012

Maybe afektulo, ŝajnigulo. In severe cases of wannabeism even fals(em)ulo

Desmut (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 06:16:36 Ngày 09 tháng 3 năm 2012

Vilius:Maybe afektulo, ŝajnigulo. In severe cases of wannabeism even fal(em)sulo
Eble vi celis la vorton fals(em)ulo, cxu ne?

Evildela (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 08:46:49 Ngày 09 tháng 3 năm 2012

ĉiamnesukcesulaĉo... however that's a mouth full. Remember every language has it's own slang which can never be fully translated. Even in English this word makes no sense without prior knowledge.

Vilius (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 11:52:08 Ngày 09 tháng 3 năm 2012

Desmut:Eble vi celis la vorton fals(em)ulo, cxu ne?
Jes, dankon.

sudanglo (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 12:34:24 Ngày 09 tháng 3 năm 2012

What about volunto - tiu kiu volus?

komenstanto (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 19:08:43 Ngày 10 tháng 3 năm 2012

I like 'afektulo', though strictly speaking, I think everyone is a wannabe, or no one. The idea of 'social-learning' means copying other ideas in order to help evolve them. I watched a video that suggested chimpanzees lacked social-learning skills, thus they could not evolve like humans by copying each other and improving. They merely do the same thing over and over.

I had an argument with a blues musician from northern Germany who suggested that only the Eric Clapton generation were NOT wannabes. All subsequent rock is wannabe. To me though, Clapton was a wannabe blues artist as well, as he copied the African American musicians. I don't see where the line is drawn. To stop change and innovation goes against human evolution.

The concept of wannabe thus has no productive meaning for human progress.

lingvokapablo (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 21:00:53 Ngày 10 tháng 3 năm 2012

komenstanto:I like 'afektulo', though strictly speaking, I think everyone is a wannabe, or no one. The idea of 'social-learning' means copying other ideas in order to help evolve them. I watched a video that suggested chimpanzees lacked social-learning skills, thus they could not evolve like humans by copying each other and improving. They merely do the same thing over and over.

I had an argument with a blues musician from northern Germany who suggested that only the Eric Clapton generation were NOT wannabes. All subsequent rock is wannabe. To me though, Clapton was a wannabe blues artist as well, as he copied the African American musicians. I don't see where the line is drawn. To stop change and innovation goes against human evolution.

The concept of wannabe thus has no productive meaning for human progress.
For me, when I use the word "wannabe" it comes down to authenticity. A wannabe to me isn't someone who sincerely wants to learn, they want "it" (whatever it happens to be) because it's cool or socially accepted.

However, I do agree with you when you say we as humans copy each other to learn.

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