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lingvokapablo (Kwerekana umwidondoro) 9 Ntwarante 2012 04:19:26

What would be a good word for "wannabe" in Esperanto?

carmona (Kwerekana umwidondoro) 9 Ntwarante 2012 04:56:26

lingvokapablo:What would be a good word for "wannabe" in Esperanto?
Maybe "estemulo", literaly? Inferentialy, no idea.

lingvokapablo (Kwerekana umwidondoro) 9 Ntwarante 2012 05:52:54

carmona:Maybe "estemulo", literaly?
I could be reading it wrong, but I don't think "estemulo" would work. The way I read "estemulo" just doesn't have the negative connotation associated with it like the word "wannabe" has.

Vilius (Kwerekana umwidondoro) 9 Ntwarante 2012 05:58:30

Maybe afektulo, ŝajnigulo. In severe cases of wannabeism even fals(em)ulo

Desmut (Kwerekana umwidondoro) 9 Ntwarante 2012 06:16:36

Vilius:Maybe afektulo, ŝajnigulo. In severe cases of wannabeism even fal(em)sulo
Eble vi celis la vorton fals(em)ulo, cxu ne?

Evildela (Kwerekana umwidondoro) 9 Ntwarante 2012 08:46:49

ĉiamnesukcesulaĉo... however that's a mouth full. Remember every language has it's own slang which can never be fully translated. Even in English this word makes no sense without prior knowledge.

Vilius (Kwerekana umwidondoro) 9 Ntwarante 2012 11:52:08

Desmut:Eble vi celis la vorton fals(em)ulo, cxu ne?
Jes, dankon.

sudanglo (Kwerekana umwidondoro) 9 Ntwarante 2012 12:34:24

What about volunto - tiu kiu volus?

komenstanto (Kwerekana umwidondoro) 10 Ntwarante 2012 19:08:43

I like 'afektulo', though strictly speaking, I think everyone is a wannabe, or no one. The idea of 'social-learning' means copying other ideas in order to help evolve them. I watched a video that suggested chimpanzees lacked social-learning skills, thus they could not evolve like humans by copying each other and improving. They merely do the same thing over and over.

I had an argument with a blues musician from northern Germany who suggested that only the Eric Clapton generation were NOT wannabes. All subsequent rock is wannabe. To me though, Clapton was a wannabe blues artist as well, as he copied the African American musicians. I don't see where the line is drawn. To stop change and innovation goes against human evolution.

The concept of wannabe thus has no productive meaning for human progress.

lingvokapablo (Kwerekana umwidondoro) 10 Ntwarante 2012 21:00:53

komenstanto:I like 'afektulo', though strictly speaking, I think everyone is a wannabe, or no one. The idea of 'social-learning' means copying other ideas in order to help evolve them. I watched a video that suggested chimpanzees lacked social-learning skills, thus they could not evolve like humans by copying each other and improving. They merely do the same thing over and over.

I had an argument with a blues musician from northern Germany who suggested that only the Eric Clapton generation were NOT wannabes. All subsequent rock is wannabe. To me though, Clapton was a wannabe blues artist as well, as he copied the African American musicians. I don't see where the line is drawn. To stop change and innovation goes against human evolution.

The concept of wannabe thus has no productive meaning for human progress.
For me, when I use the word "wannabe" it comes down to authenticity. A wannabe to me isn't someone who sincerely wants to learn, they want "it" (whatever it happens to be) because it's cool or socially accepted.

However, I do agree with you when you say we as humans copy each other to learn.

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