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от Hyperboreus, 26 август 2012

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Hyperboreus (Покажи профила) 26 август 2012, 17:35:33

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Hyperboreus (Покажи профила) 26 август 2012, 17:36:06

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Vestitor (Покажи профила) 26 август 2012, 17:57:32

Hyperboreus:Their argumentation was: If you say “He sees me.” and “I see him.” then why don’t you say “Him runs.” and “Me runs.”, which would be only logical.
Why would it be logical? 'He sees me' and 'He runs' makes perfect alignment sense (to me), as would I see him' and 'I run'...rather than the other suggested logical inferences. The question is genuine because I'm not a linguist and I would appreciate the explanation.

Hyperboreus (Покажи профила) 26 август 2012, 18:06:02

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razlem (Покажи профила) 26 август 2012, 18:07:49

Oh lawd. Ergative case. But it looks and sounds very interesting ridulo.gif

Hyperboreus (Покажи профила) 26 август 2012, 18:10:28

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EldanarLambetur (Покажи профила) 26 август 2012, 18:34:30

Somehow, I've never looked into "absolutive" and "ergative"! Thanks for bringing them to my attention with a simple example! Looks interesting!

I shall take a peek at this Mayan Esperanto ridego.gif

Vestitor (Покажи профила) 26 август 2012, 18:35:10

I think I see now. So this explains similar structures in languages like Caribbean creoles and other pidgin Englishes? Like Sranan Tongo in Suriname where people say 'Mi go' (I go/am going)instead of I am going. Is that the same principle or different?

Hyperboreus (Покажи профила) 26 август 2012, 18:42:23

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Hyperboreus (Покажи профила) 26 август 2012, 18:52:43

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