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di Hyperboreus, 26 agosto 2012

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Lingua: English

Hyperboreus (Mostra il profilo) 26 agosto 2012 17:35:33

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Hyperboreus (Mostra il profilo) 26 agosto 2012 17:36:06

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Vestitor (Mostra il profilo) 26 agosto 2012 17:57:32

Hyperboreus:Their argumentation was: If you say “He sees me.” and “I see him.” then why don’t you say “Him runs.” and “Me runs.”, which would be only logical.
Why would it be logical? 'He sees me' and 'He runs' makes perfect alignment sense (to me), as would I see him' and 'I run'...rather than the other suggested logical inferences. The question is genuine because I'm not a linguist and I would appreciate the explanation.

Hyperboreus (Mostra il profilo) 26 agosto 2012 18:06:02

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razlem (Mostra il profilo) 26 agosto 2012 18:07:49

Oh lawd. Ergative case. But it looks and sounds very interesting ridulo.gif

Hyperboreus (Mostra il profilo) 26 agosto 2012 18:10:28

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EldanarLambetur (Mostra il profilo) 26 agosto 2012 18:34:30

Somehow, I've never looked into "absolutive" and "ergative"! Thanks for bringing them to my attention with a simple example! Looks interesting!

I shall take a peek at this Mayan Esperanto ridego.gif

Vestitor (Mostra il profilo) 26 agosto 2012 18:35:10

I think I see now. So this explains similar structures in languages like Caribbean creoles and other pidgin Englishes? Like Sranan Tongo in Suriname where people say 'Mi go' (I go/am going)instead of I am going. Is that the same principle or different?

Hyperboreus (Mostra il profilo) 26 agosto 2012 18:42:23

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Hyperboreus (Mostra il profilo) 26 agosto 2012 18:52:43

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