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Instant Coffee

od Simon Pure, 18 grudnia 2012

Wpisy: 12

Język: English

Simon Pure (Pokaż profil) 18 grudnia 2012, 19:14:21

Tuja kafo?

sudanglo (Pokaż profil) 18 grudnia 2012, 20:49:43

Judging by the offerings of Google translate it looks like 'instantana kafo' would be admissible under rule 15.

Curiously, however, NPIV doesn't register 'instantana'.

The problem with Kaf-pulvoro is that could be just finely ground beans. But perhaps pulvora kafo would be OK.

Does Vikipedio have an article on coffee?

brw1 (Pokaż profil) 18 grudnia 2012, 21:25:11

google translation gives the translation from English as "momenteto kafo" I'd go with that even though esperanto is not my expertise

Rugxdoma (Pokaż profil) 18 grudnia 2012, 21:44:30

The Swedish word is "snabbkaffe", rapidkafo. That is quite close to tuja kafo.

matrix (Pokaż profil) 18 grudnia 2012, 22:32:11

“Tujpreta kafo” may be a good translation of “instant coffee”.

T0dd (Pokaż profil) 18 grudnia 2012, 23:07:01

matrix:“Tujpreta kafo” may be a good translation of “instant coffee”.
Ooh, that's a very handy word! Thanks for finding it for me!

sudanglo (Pokaż profil) 18 grudnia 2012, 23:20:02

But suppose you had to translate dialogue in a novel or film.

- Would you like a coffee? I'm afraid we only have instant.

- Instant will be fine.

erinja (Pokaż profil) 19 grudnia 2012, 01:26:59

I normally say "tujpreta kafo"

If I were looking for a rule 15 usage it would probably be "neskafeo", since Nescafe is well-known in many countries for this product. But in Esperanto settings everyone seems to call it tujpreta kafo.

Tjeri (Pokaż profil) 19 grudnia 2012, 06:44:48

Why not Liofiliza kafo ?

sudanglo (Pokaż profil) 19 grudnia 2012, 10:09:43

It always surprises me when I hear of couples who use Esperanto in their domestic life. It seems to me that they must either not talk about certain things, or use ad hoc terms, or have a constant headache as to how to name certain things in Esperanto.

The pattern of usage for Esperanto means that there all sorts of things from everyday life, which don't have regular names. Sometimes the naming of an article is obvious, but often not.

Maybe 'instant coffee' is a good example of this difficulty, maybe not. I can't recall ever hearing another Esperantist name this in conversation, but perhaps tujpreta is an established usage.

However nobody could argue that there are Esperanto supermarkets. Even the word for supermarket is somewhat problematic with the variants supervendejo, supermarkto, superbazaro, ĉiovendejo, magazenego and so on all having some claim.

Incidentally, logically, superbazaro is a shopping mall or complex, not an individual supermarket. In a bazaro you pay many times as you shop to individual shopkeepers or stall-holders, there is not one check-out for the whole complex.

EDIT: there are no hits in the Tekstaro for 'tujpret', 7 for 'supervendej' and 4 for 'superbazar' 2 for 'ĉiovendej'. Wells gives solvebla for instant (coffee etc)

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