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Harborage

от jkph00, 07 септември 2015

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Език: English

jkph00 (Покажи профила) 07 септември 2015, 17:30:33

Can someone give me a good Esperanto equivalent for the English harborage? I am interested in one that implies 1. shelter for vessels, as that provided by a harbor; 2. any shelter or lodging, and 3. a place of shelter. It is for the name of a small seaside cottage.

Thanks again!

zaragorti (Покажи профила) 07 септември 2015, 17:54:21

Haveneco? Or for a cottage, Havenejo? Haven-dometo? Can I recommend that you imagine your cottage's name being pronounced by a non-Esperantist native of your country and make sure that the pronounciation doesn't annoy you too much? Also, be prepared to explain the name dozens of times - a good in-road for starting a conversation about Esperanto, but potentially also irritating for you.

Vestitor (Покажи профила) 07 септември 2015, 19:06:22

It has to be havenejo. Harbour itself means safety/shelter so adding -ejo to haven literally means place-of-shelter/safety.

robbkvasnak (Покажи профила) 07 септември 2015, 20:16:15

I see that you speak German, my mother tongue. So in German the word "harborage" has two translations: Herberge, Zuflucht.
Herberge in Esperanto = albergo (Zuflucht - rifuĝejo). Albergo seems very charming as a word. I know that it doesn't convery a direct meaning of habor as a maritime word but that is what a harbor is, see Safe Harbor in Jacksonville (the only place in Jax that I liked).

jkph00 (Покажи профила) 07 септември 2015, 22:53:53

robbkvasnak:I see that you speak German, my mother tongue. So in German the word "harborage" has two translations: Herberge, Zuflucht.
Herberge in Esperanto = albergo (Zuflucht - rifuĝejo). Albergo seems very charming as a word. I know that it doesn't convery a direct meaning of habor as a maritime word but that is what a harbor is, see Safe Harbor in Jacksonville (the only place in Jax that I liked).
The German "Herberge" certainly has the right tone, danke. A very nice descriptive phrase could be rifuĝejo apud la maro, but havenejo comes close, too. How about havenejeto? Would that work for the cottage?

Miland (Покажи профила) 08 септември 2015, 07:29:53

If you want to name a cottage, I suggest La Haveno (or perhaps Haveno).

sudanglo (Покажи профила) 08 септември 2015, 10:50:16

Haveno already contains the idea of a place (see definitions in PIV).

Haveneto seems quite charming.

jkph00 (Покажи профила) 08 септември 2015, 20:37:10

sudanglo:Haveno already contains the idea of a place (see definitions in PIV).

Haveneto seems quite charming.
La Haveneto it will be. Warmest thanks to you all!

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