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Harborage

by jkph00, September 7, 2015

Messages: 8

Language: English

jkph00 (User's profile) September 7, 2015, 5:30:33 PM

Can someone give me a good Esperanto equivalent for the English harborage? I am interested in one that implies 1. shelter for vessels, as that provided by a harbor; 2. any shelter or lodging, and 3. a place of shelter. It is for the name of a small seaside cottage.

Thanks again!

zaragorti (User's profile) September 7, 2015, 5:54:21 PM

Haveneco? Or for a cottage, Havenejo? Haven-dometo? Can I recommend that you imagine your cottage's name being pronounced by a non-Esperantist native of your country and make sure that the pronounciation doesn't annoy you too much? Also, be prepared to explain the name dozens of times - a good in-road for starting a conversation about Esperanto, but potentially also irritating for you.

Vestitor (User's profile) September 7, 2015, 7:06:22 PM

It has to be havenejo. Harbour itself means safety/shelter so adding -ejo to haven literally means place-of-shelter/safety.

robbkvasnak (User's profile) September 7, 2015, 8:16:15 PM

I see that you speak German, my mother tongue. So in German the word "harborage" has two translations: Herberge, Zuflucht.
Herberge in Esperanto = albergo (Zuflucht - rifuĝejo). Albergo seems very charming as a word. I know that it doesn't convery a direct meaning of habor as a maritime word but that is what a harbor is, see Safe Harbor in Jacksonville (the only place in Jax that I liked).

jkph00 (User's profile) September 7, 2015, 10:53:53 PM

robbkvasnak:I see that you speak German, my mother tongue. So in German the word "harborage" has two translations: Herberge, Zuflucht.
Herberge in Esperanto = albergo (Zuflucht - rifuĝejo). Albergo seems very charming as a word. I know that it doesn't convery a direct meaning of habor as a maritime word but that is what a harbor is, see Safe Harbor in Jacksonville (the only place in Jax that I liked).
The German "Herberge" certainly has the right tone, danke. A very nice descriptive phrase could be rifuĝejo apud la maro, but havenejo comes close, too. How about havenejeto? Would that work for the cottage?

Miland (User's profile) September 8, 2015, 7:29:53 AM

If you want to name a cottage, I suggest La Haveno (or perhaps Haveno).

sudanglo (User's profile) September 8, 2015, 10:50:16 AM

Haveno already contains the idea of a place (see definitions in PIV).

Haveneto seems quite charming.

jkph00 (User's profile) September 8, 2015, 8:37:10 PM

sudanglo:Haveno already contains the idea of a place (see definitions in PIV).

Haveneto seems quite charming.
La Haveneto it will be. Warmest thanks to you all!

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