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Suffix "ino"

de Ploppsy32, 2019-decembro-14

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Ploppsy32 (Montri la profilon) 2019-decembro-18 20:34:32

La mesaĝo estas kaŝita.

Ploppsy32 (Montri la profilon) 2019-decembro-18 20:35:35

La mesaĝo estas kaŝita.

Jxusteno (Montri la profilon) 2019-decembro-18 20:36:34

Ploppsy32:The whole concept of sisters being nothing but female brothers doesn't even make sense because a brother is a male sibling so saying my female male sibling cancels the genders out.
The suffix -in- just femalizes the male or gender-neutral word.

Ploppsy32 (Montri la profilon) 2019-decembro-18 20:36:47

Jxusteno:
nornen:wo-man (< wifman) is a female man in English, too.
If I'm not erring, the word "man" originally used to mean "human being"...
I was thinking that too.

nornen (Montri la profilon) 2019-decembro-18 20:42:02

Sure you were, that's why you answered "yea good point"...

Ploppsy32 (Montri la profilon) 2019-decembro-18 20:45:06

It was a good point

nornen (Montri la profilon) 2019-decembro-18 20:46:48

Fun fact: The PIE-root behind the "wo" part in "woman" is "*gʰʷíh₂bʰ-", which means "genitals, shame, pudenda". So a woman is etymologically a vagina-person. While a "man" is just a person.

Ploppsy32 (Montri la profilon) 2019-decembro-18 22:07:43

Do any of you all feel that words such as viro/virino, patro/patrino, frato/fratino, etc linguistically excludes women and nonbinary people just as the pronoun "li", in some peoples opinion, can be linguistically exclusive?

Zam_franca (Montri la profilon) 2019-decembro-18 22:30:13

Nope, we won't change the whole Esperanto grammatical system.
Estas tiel. And it really well works.

robinvdv (Montri la profilon) 2019-decembro-18 23:13:43

Zam_franca:Nope, we won't change the whole Esperanto grammatical system.
Estas tiel. And it really well works.
It's an overstatement to say that it works really well. If it works well, this forum thread wouldn't exist and there wouldn't be any discussion about the topic.

Esperanto speakers have been discussing ways to improve the way Esperanto handles gender since the 1970s, and the discussions have only become more heated lately. A change to the traditional system is inevitable, even more if you think that most people against it are old conservatives, and the people for it are young speakers.

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