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Suffix "ino"

ya Ploppsy32, 14 Desemba 2019

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Ploppsy32 (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 18 Desemba 2019 8:34:32 alasiri

Ujumbe umefichwa.

Ploppsy32 (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 18 Desemba 2019 8:35:35 alasiri

Ujumbe umefichwa.

Jxusteno (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 18 Desemba 2019 8:36:34 alasiri

Ploppsy32:The whole concept of sisters being nothing but female brothers doesn't even make sense because a brother is a male sibling so saying my female male sibling cancels the genders out.
The suffix -in- just femalizes the male or gender-neutral word.

Ploppsy32 (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 18 Desemba 2019 8:36:47 alasiri

Jxusteno:
nornen:wo-man (< wifman) is a female man in English, too.
If I'm not erring, the word "man" originally used to mean "human being"...
I was thinking that too.

nornen (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 18 Desemba 2019 8:42:02 alasiri

Sure you were, that's why you answered "yea good point"...

Ploppsy32 (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 18 Desemba 2019 8:45:06 alasiri

It was a good point

nornen (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 18 Desemba 2019 8:46:48 alasiri

Fun fact: The PIE-root behind the "wo" part in "woman" is "*gʰʷíh₂bʰ-", which means "genitals, shame, pudenda". So a woman is etymologically a vagina-person. While a "man" is just a person.

Ploppsy32 (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 18 Desemba 2019 10:07:43 alasiri

Do any of you all feel that words such as viro/virino, patro/patrino, frato/fratino, etc linguistically excludes women and nonbinary people just as the pronoun "li", in some peoples opinion, can be linguistically exclusive?

Zam_franca (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 18 Desemba 2019 10:30:13 alasiri

Nope, we won't change the whole Esperanto grammatical system.
Estas tiel. And it really well works.

robinvdv (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 18 Desemba 2019 11:13:43 alasiri

Zam_franca:Nope, we won't change the whole Esperanto grammatical system.
Estas tiel. And it really well works.
It's an overstatement to say that it works really well. If it works well, this forum thread wouldn't exist and there wouldn't be any discussion about the topic.

Esperanto speakers have been discussing ways to improve the way Esperanto handles gender since the 1970s, and the discussions have only become more heated lately. A change to the traditional system is inevitable, even more if you think that most people against it are old conservatives, and the people for it are young speakers.

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