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Suffix "ino"

от Ploppsy32, 14 декабря 2019 г.

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Ploppsy32 (Показать профиль) 18 декабря 2019 г., 20:34:32

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Ploppsy32 (Показать профиль) 18 декабря 2019 г., 20:35:35

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Jxusteno (Показать профиль) 18 декабря 2019 г., 20:36:34

Ploppsy32:The whole concept of sisters being nothing but female brothers doesn't even make sense because a brother is a male sibling so saying my female male sibling cancels the genders out.
The suffix -in- just femalizes the male or gender-neutral word.

Ploppsy32 (Показать профиль) 18 декабря 2019 г., 20:36:47

Jxusteno:
nornen:wo-man (< wifman) is a female man in English, too.
If I'm not erring, the word "man" originally used to mean "human being"...
I was thinking that too.

nornen (Показать профиль) 18 декабря 2019 г., 20:42:02

Sure you were, that's why you answered "yea good point"...

Ploppsy32 (Показать профиль) 18 декабря 2019 г., 20:45:06

It was a good point

nornen (Показать профиль) 18 декабря 2019 г., 20:46:48

Fun fact: The PIE-root behind the "wo" part in "woman" is "*gʰʷíh₂bʰ-", which means "genitals, shame, pudenda". So a woman is etymologically a vagina-person. While a "man" is just a person.

Ploppsy32 (Показать профиль) 18 декабря 2019 г., 22:07:43

Do any of you all feel that words such as viro/virino, patro/patrino, frato/fratino, etc linguistically excludes women and nonbinary people just as the pronoun "li", in some peoples opinion, can be linguistically exclusive?

Zam_franca (Показать профиль) 18 декабря 2019 г., 22:30:13

Nope, we won't change the whole Esperanto grammatical system.
Estas tiel. And it really well works.

robinvdv (Показать профиль) 18 декабря 2019 г., 23:13:43

Zam_franca:Nope, we won't change the whole Esperanto grammatical system.
Estas tiel. And it really well works.
It's an overstatement to say that it works really well. If it works well, this forum thread wouldn't exist and there wouldn't be any discussion about the topic.

Esperanto speakers have been discussing ways to improve the way Esperanto handles gender since the 1970s, and the discussions have only become more heated lately. A change to the traditional system is inevitable, even more if you think that most people against it are old conservatives, and the people for it are young speakers.

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