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Suffix "ino"

od Ploppsy32, 14 grudnia 2019

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Język: English

Ploppsy32 (Pokaż profil) 18 grudnia 2019, 20:34:32

Wiadomość została ukryta.

Ploppsy32 (Pokaż profil) 18 grudnia 2019, 20:35:35

Wiadomość została ukryta.

Jxusteno (Pokaż profil) 18 grudnia 2019, 20:36:34

Ploppsy32:The whole concept of sisters being nothing but female brothers doesn't even make sense because a brother is a male sibling so saying my female male sibling cancels the genders out.
The suffix -in- just femalizes the male or gender-neutral word.

Ploppsy32 (Pokaż profil) 18 grudnia 2019, 20:36:47

Jxusteno:
nornen:wo-man (< wifman) is a female man in English, too.
If I'm not erring, the word "man" originally used to mean "human being"...
I was thinking that too.

nornen (Pokaż profil) 18 grudnia 2019, 20:42:02

Sure you were, that's why you answered "yea good point"...

Ploppsy32 (Pokaż profil) 18 grudnia 2019, 20:45:06

It was a good point

nornen (Pokaż profil) 18 grudnia 2019, 20:46:48

Fun fact: The PIE-root behind the "wo" part in "woman" is "*gʰʷíh₂bʰ-", which means "genitals, shame, pudenda". So a woman is etymologically a vagina-person. While a "man" is just a person.

Ploppsy32 (Pokaż profil) 18 grudnia 2019, 22:07:43

Do any of you all feel that words such as viro/virino, patro/patrino, frato/fratino, etc linguistically excludes women and nonbinary people just as the pronoun "li", in some peoples opinion, can be linguistically exclusive?

Zam_franca (Pokaż profil) 18 grudnia 2019, 22:30:13

Nope, we won't change the whole Esperanto grammatical system.
Estas tiel. And it really well works.

robinvdv (Pokaż profil) 18 grudnia 2019, 23:13:43

Zam_franca:Nope, we won't change the whole Esperanto grammatical system.
Estas tiel. And it really well works.
It's an overstatement to say that it works really well. If it works well, this forum thread wouldn't exist and there wouldn't be any discussion about the topic.

Esperanto speakers have been discussing ways to improve the way Esperanto handles gender since the 1970s, and the discussions have only become more heated lately. A change to the traditional system is inevitable, even more if you think that most people against it are old conservatives, and the people for it are young speakers.

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