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Learning Idioms in Esperanto

de Nala_Cat15, 17 februarie 2019

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Nala_Cat15 (Arată profil) 17 februarie 2019, 03:25:26

A couple of questions:
How did you learn idioms in Esperanto? because I can't find many examples on the internet.
Are idioms a common occurrence in Esperanto, or Is everything mostly literal?

Dankon

sergejm (Arată profil) 17 februarie 2019, 07:10:20

Most of Esperanto idioms you can find in (special) dictionaries. They are irregular, you never find full list.

Nala_Cat15 (Arată profil) 17 februarie 2019, 17:58:01

What do you mean by "special" dictionary?

sergejm (Arată profil) 17 februarie 2019, 19:00:40

Dictionary of idioms

Nala_Cat15 (Arată profil) 18 iunie 2019, 20:40:13

There isn't really a "special dictionary of idioms" that I can find. I don't think a dictionary specific to idioms exists in esperanto.

bryku (Arată profil) 18 iunie 2019, 23:15:06

You do not need any idioms in Esperanto the way you need them in English - you can express everything regularly.

sergejm (Arată profil) 19 iunie 2019, 03:42:28

Nala_Cat15:There isn't really a "special dictionary of idioms" that I can find. I don't think a dictionary specific to idioms exists in esperanto.
Someone need to make it. Do you?
Some common dictionaries contain some of them, but not many.
bryku:You do not need any idioms in Esperanto the way you need them in English - you can express everything regularly.
Do you want idioms in Esperanto or don't, they exists.
Oni nomas ilin "idiotismoj".

Metsis (Arată profil) 19 iunie 2019, 07:37:02

bryku:You do not need any idioms in Esperanto the way you need them in English - you can express everything regularly.
Well "regularly" is relative. E-o has its own irregularities and peculiarities (accusative used as partitive, accusative in time expressions, several ways to express translative, absolute time expressions with antaŭ and post to name a couple), albeit perhaps less than other human languages, but it's not completely logical and regular (as has been touted ad nauceam).

For instance for me the following idioms are hard:
• unu la alian : from where does the article jump into the expression?
• kiel eble plej… : in my native language the construction is English-like as… as possible, i.e. the adverb comes before the "possibility" and not the other way round.

sergejm (Arată profil) 19 iunie 2019, 17:54:47

The first collection of Esperanto idioms is Proverbaro Esperanto

wswartzendruber (Arată profil) 20 iunie 2019, 16:59:50

New guy here.

Wouldn't idioms make it more difficult to communicate across cultures? It seems to me that this language has been carefully calculated to avoid such issues.

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